“When you stop the story and say, ‘That’s fake. That doesn’t sound like it appeals to me,’ you cut yourself off from what a story does and what storytellers are here to do,” Ava DuVernay says in this Peabody Conversation after accepting a 2016 Peabody Award for “13th.” The documentary tells the story of the criminalization of African-Americans from racial slavery to convict leasing systems, from Jim Crow terror to mass incarceration as a means of exercising social control of black populations. It was honored “for its exhaustive, critical, and courageous examination of crime, race, the criminal justice system, and struggles for social justice.”